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8 9 DATE: October 11, 2023 at 6:36 p.m. 10 LOCATION: North Syracuse Jr. High
8 9 DATE: October 11, 2023 at 6:36 p.m. 10 LOCATION: North Syracuse Jr. High
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24 25 800.523.7887 10-11-2023, Public Meeting Associated Reporters Int'l., Inc. 1 10/11/23 - Micron Project SEQRA Scoping – Public Hearing 2 (The hearing commenced at 6:36 p.m.) 3 MR. PETROVICH: A little louder. A 4 little louder. Super. How about now? Can you hear 5 me all right? I'm usually not a soft talker. Good 6 evening, everyone. Thanks for coming. My name is 7 Bob Petrovich. I'm the Executive Director of the
24 25 800.523.7887 10-11-2023, Public Meeting Associated Reporters Int'l., Inc. 1 10/11/23 - Micron Project SEQRA Scoping – Public Hearing 2 (The hearing commenced at 6:36 p.m.) 3 MR. PETROVICH: A little louder. A 4 little louder. Super. How about now? Can you hear 5 me all right? I'm usually not a soft talker. Good 6 evening, everyone. Thanks for coming. My name is 7 Bob Petrovich. I'm the Executive Director of the
9 or commonly known as OCIDA. And I just want to take 10 care of a couple of housekeeping matters before we 11 get started this evening. Exits are at the rear of 12 the auditorium plainly marked. Restrooms can be found 13 out and to the left of the auditorium or you can go 14 up the stairs on the second floor. There are 15 restrooms there as well.
9 or commonly known as OCIDA. And I just want to take 10 care of a couple of housekeeping matters before we 11 get started this evening. Exits are at the rear of 12 the auditorium plainly marked. Restrooms can be found 13 out and to the left of the auditorium or you can go 14 up the stairs on the second floor. There are 15 restrooms there as well.
17 juncture that we do have available this evening
17 juncture that we do have available this evening
19 interpreters here for anyone in the audience that 20 needs those services. If anybody does need those 21 services, please let us know, and we will make sure 22 that someone at the registration desk facilitates 23 that on your behalf so that you can fully 24 participate.
19 interpreters here for anyone in the audience that 20 needs those services. If anybody does need those 21 services, please let us know, and we will make sure 22 that someone at the registration desk facilitates 23 that on your behalf so that you can fully 24 participate.
ARII@courtsteno.com www.courtsteno.com 800.523.7887 10-11-2023, Public Meeting Associated Reporters Int'l., Inc. 1 10/11/23 - Micron Project SEQRA Scoping – Public Hearing 2 are here this evening. I have Jeff Davis with me, 3 IDA counsel, and Amanda Fitzgerald. And we'll be 4 presiding over this evening's public scoping session 5 as we commence the environmental review of the Micron
ARII@courtsteno.com www.courtsteno.com 800.523.7887 10-11-2023, Public Meeting Associated Reporters Int'l., Inc. 1 10/11/23 - Micron Project SEQRA Scoping – Public Hearing 2 are here this evening. I have Jeff Davis with me, 3 IDA counsel, and Amanda Fitzgerald. And we'll be 4 presiding over this evening's public scoping session 5 as we commence the environmental review of the Micron
7 proposed for Clay, New York. In July of 2023, 8 actually July 14th, OCIDA received an application for 9 financial assistance from Micron, and which no doubt 10 most of you in attendance here are aware of. Micron 11 intends to invest a hundred billion dollars over 12 twenty years to build a leading-edge semiconductor 13 manufacturing campus in the town of Clay at the 14 expanded White Pine Commerce Park located, generally, 15 at 5171, route 31, town of Clay, New York.
7 proposed for Clay, New York. In July of 2023, 8 actually July 14th, OCIDA received an application for 9 financial assistance from Micron, and which no doubt 10 most of you in attendance here are aware of. Micron 11 intends to invest a hundred billion dollars over 12 twenty years to build a leading-edge semiconductor 13 manufacturing campus in the town of Clay at the 14 expanded White Pine Commerce Park located, generally, 15 at 5171, route 31, town of Clay, New York.
17 reviewed under the State Environmental Quality Review 18 Act or SEQRA as it's known. In accordance with
17 reviewed under the State Environmental Quality Review 18 Act or SEQRA as it's known. In accordance with
20 as lead agency for SEQRA purposes.
20 as lead agency for SEQRA purposes.
22 declaration due to the project's potential to result 23 in one or more significant adverse impacts and has 24 declared its intent to prepare a draft environmental 25 impact statement, or an EIS for short. The first ARII@courtsteno.com www.courtsteno.com 800.523.7887 10-11-2023, Public Meeting Associated Reporters Int'l., Inc. 1 10/11/23 - Micron Project SEQRA Scoping – Public Hearing 2 step in preparing an EIS is scoping. Scoping is a 3 process that develops a written document, the scope, 4 which outlines the topics and analyses of potential 5 environmental impacts of an action that will be 6 studied and addressed in the draft environmental 7 impact statement prepared for this project.
22 declaration due to the project's potential to result 23 in one or more significant adverse impacts and has 24 declared its intent to prepare a draft environmental 25 impact statement, or an EIS for short. The first ARII@courtsteno.com www.courtsteno.com 800.523.7887 10-11-2023, Public Meeting Associated Reporters Int'l., Inc. 1 10/11/23 - Micron Project SEQRA Scoping – Public Hearing 2 step in preparing an EIS is scoping. Scoping is a 3 process that develops a written document, the scope, 4 which outlines the topics and analyses of potential 5 environmental impacts of an action that will be 6 studied and addressed in the draft environmental 7 impact statement prepared for this project.
9 an EIS is required, OCIDA drafted -- noticed a draft 10 scoping document and invited the public to review and 11 comment on that scoping document. OCIDA posted a 12 copy of the draft scoping document on its website for 13 public review. The purpose of tonight's scoping 14 session is for OCIDA as the lead agency in this 15 process to receive comments on the draft scoping 16 document.
9 an EIS is required, OCIDA drafted -- noticed a draft 10 scoping document and invited the public to review and 11 comment on that scoping document. OCIDA posted a 12 copy of the draft scoping document on its website for 13 public review. The purpose of tonight's scoping 14 session is for OCIDA as the lead agency in this 15 process to receive comments on the draft scoping 16 document.
18 session, but an opportunity for the public to make 19 comments on the draft scoping document for the 20 record. There is a court reporter here tonight over 21 at the other table and -- who is making a record of 22 all comments made. If you do come forward and make 23 comments tonight, we ask that you please state your 24 full name and where you're from, and also speak 25 clearly and slowly so that the reporter can make an ARII@courtsteno.com www.courtsteno.com 800.523.7887 10-11-2023, Public Meeting Associated Reporters Int'l., Inc. 1 10/11/23 - Micron Project SEQRA Scoping – Public Hearing 2 accurate record of your statement. We ask those in 3 attendance to please show respect for the person that 4 is speaking, even if you do not agree with the 5 comment, and also to please hold applause or other 6 noise so that we may make an accurate record.
18 session, but an opportunity for the public to make 19 comments on the draft scoping document for the 20 record. There is a court reporter here tonight over 21 at the other table and -- who is making a record of 22 all comments made. If you do come forward and make 23 comments tonight, we ask that you please state your 24 full name and where you're from, and also speak 25 clearly and slowly so that the reporter can make an ARII@courtsteno.com www.courtsteno.com 800.523.7887 10-11-2023, Public Meeting Associated Reporters Int'l., Inc. 1 10/11/23 - Micron Project SEQRA Scoping – Public Hearing 2 accurate record of your statement. We ask those in 3 attendance to please show respect for the person that 4 is speaking, even if you do not agree with the 5 comment, and also to please hold applause or other 6 noise so that we may make an accurate record.
8 pre-registered and who have signed up to speak 9 tonight, we are limiting comments to three minutes.
8 pre-registered and who have signed up to speak 9 tonight, we are limiting comments to three minutes.
11 within the three minutes, I think we have enough time 12 and have allowed you to get back in line and to have 13 a second round to make an additional comment. We -- 14 time permitting, our goal is to allow everyone to 15 speak and have the opportunity to do so.
11 within the three minutes, I think we have enough time 12 and have allowed you to get back in line and to have 13 a second round to make an additional comment. We -- 14 time permitting, our goal is to allow everyone to 15 speak and have the opportunity to do so.
17 participate in this process. This is your 18 opportunity to voice -- to have your voice heard. If 19 you do not wish to make a comment here this evening, 20 you may submit your comment in writing via email or 21 US mail to OCIDA.
17 participate in this process. This is your 18 opportunity to voice -- to have your voice heard. If 19 you do not wish to make a comment here this evening, 20 you may submit your comment in writing via email or 21 US mail to OCIDA.
23 comments can be found on the notice, and we have 24 copies of the notice available for you, if that's 25 convenient. You may take a copy with you this ARII@courtsteno.com www.courtsteno.com 800.523.7887 10-11-2023, Public Meeting Associated Reporters Int'l., Inc. 1 10/11/23 - Micron Project SEQRA Scoping – Public Hearing 2 evening and submit your written comment. The notice 3 and the contact information for submitting comments 4 can also be found on OCIDA's website. Identified on 5 the screen behind me are the email and mailing 6 address to submit written comments, as well as the 7 OCIDA website. We also include the project applicant 8 website for further information may be found on the 9 proposed project there. Written comments will be 10 accepted through October 20th. Your input, both 11 verbal comments here tonight and written comments 12 that are received by OCIDA, will help OCIDA prepare a 13 final scope, which will be released after all the 14 comments have been received and considered. Equal
23 comments can be found on the notice, and we have 24 copies of the notice available for you, if that's 25 convenient. You may take a copy with you this ARII@courtsteno.com www.courtsteno.com 800.523.7887 10-11-2023, Public Meeting Associated Reporters Int'l., Inc. 1 10/11/23 - Micron Project SEQRA Scoping – Public Hearing 2 evening and submit your written comment. The notice 3 and the contact information for submitting comments 4 can also be found on OCIDA's website. Identified on 5 the screen behind me are the email and mailing 6 address to submit written comments, as well as the 7 OCIDA website. We also include the project applicant 8 website for further information may be found on the 9 proposed project there. Written comments will be 10 accepted through October 20th. Your input, both 11 verbal comments here tonight and written comments 12 that are received by OCIDA, will help OCIDA prepare a 13 final scope, which will be released after all the 14 comments have been received and considered. Equal 15 weight is given to both verbal and written comments. 15 weight is given to both verbal and written comments.
17 meeting over to Jeff Davis, IDA Counsel. And we will 18 begin taking comments for the record.
19 MR. DAVIS: Thank you. Lisette, do 20 you want to say a few words?
21 MS. LISETTE: Thank you, Jeff. 22 MR. DAVIS: Thank you. we will get 23 started. I -- we have a few folks that pre- 24 registered and then thanks everyone for submitting 25 your names on comment cards. I'm just going to go ARII@courtsteno.com www.courtsteno.com 800.523.7887 10-11-2023, Public Meeting Associated Reporters Int'l., Inc. 1 10/11/23 - Micron Project SEQRA Scoping – Public Hearing 2 through the list as we received them. And as Bob 3 said, we'll work through things. Roughly three 4 minutes. So take your comments. I think someone 5 told me earlier that that was roughly the length of 6 the Gettysburg address, so if we can get through 7 that, that would be great. If you want to have more 8 comments after the fact, you can get back in line as
17 meeting over to Jeff Davis, IDA Counsel. And we will 18 begin taking comments for the record.
19 MR. DAVIS: Thank you. Lisette, do 20 you want to say a few words?
21 MS. LISETTE: Thank you, Jeff. 22 MR. DAVIS: Thank you. we will get 23 started. I -- we have a few folks that pre- 24 registered and then thanks everyone for submitting 25 your names on comment cards. I'm just going to go ARII@courtsteno.com www.courtsteno.com 800.523.7887 10-11-2023, Public Meeting Associated Reporters Int'l., Inc. 1 10/11/23 - Micron Project SEQRA Scoping – Public Hearing 2 through the list as we received them. And as Bob 3 said, we'll work through things. Roughly three 4 minutes. So take your comments. I think someone 5 told me earlier that that was roughly the length of 6 the Gettysburg address, so if we can get through 7 that, that would be great. If you want to have more 8 comments after the fact, you can get back in line as 9 Bob said, and we can hear further comments. First 10 up, Frank Sciortino, and after that would be Jay 11 Riordan.
12 Great. Frank, if you could come down 13 to the mic. Appreciate it.
9 Bob said, and we can hear further comments. First 10 up, Frank Sciortino, and after that would be Jay 11 Riordan.
12 Great. Frank, if you could come down 13 to the mic. Appreciate it.
15 them state and spell their name for the record? 16 MR. SCIORTINO: Don't start the clock 17 yet.
18 MR. DAVIS: What was that? 19 MR. SCIORTINO: I said don't start the 20 clock yet.
21 MR. DAVIS: No, not yet. 22 MR. SCIORTINO: I have a written. 23 COURT REPORTER: Thank you. 24 MR. DAVIS: And Frank, if you could 25 state your name and spell it for the record for the ARII@courtsteno.com www.courtsteno.com 800.523.7887 10-11-2023, Public Meeting Associated Reporters Int'l., Inc. 1 10/11/23 - Micron Project SEQRA Scoping – Public Hearing 2 court reporter, that would be very helpful. Thank 3 you.
4 MR. SCIORTINO: I will. Thank you. 5 My name is Frank Sciortino, S-C-I-O-R-T-I-N-O. And I 6 thank you for the opportunity. My name is Frank
15 them state and spell their name for the record? 16 MR. SCIORTINO: Don't start the clock 17 yet.
18 MR. DAVIS: What was that? 19 MR. SCIORTINO: I said don't start the 20 clock yet.
21 MR. DAVIS: No, not yet. 22 MR. SCIORTINO: I have a written. 23 COURT REPORTER: Thank you. 24 MR. DAVIS: And Frank, if you could 25 state your name and spell it for the record for the ARII@courtsteno.com www.courtsteno.com 800.523.7887 10-11-2023, Public Meeting Associated Reporters Int'l., Inc. 1 10/11/23 - Micron Project SEQRA Scoping – Public Hearing 2 court reporter, that would be very helpful. Thank 3 you.
4 MR. SCIORTINO: I will. Thank you. 5 My name is Frank Sciortino, S-C-I-O-R-T-I-N-O. And I 6 thank you for the opportunity. My name is Frank
8 town of Clay with my wife, Elaine. Elaine and I are 9 not opposed to the project. However, we do face the 10 potential for significant impact to the character of 11 our neighborhood and the value of our property if the 12 Micron project is approved. We live on the corner of
8 town of Clay with my wife, Elaine. Elaine and I are 9 not opposed to the project. However, we do face the 10 potential for significant impact to the character of 11 our neighborhood and the value of our property if the 12 Micron project is approved. We live on the corner of
14 impacts we face are traffic related and directly 15 associated with the plans for improvements to local 16 roads, namely Caughdenoy Road, Mud Mill Road, 17 VerPlank Road, and Van Hoesen Road. The impact on 18 traffic paragraph and the notice of intent to prepare
14 impacts we face are traffic related and directly 15 associated with the plans for improvements to local 16 roads, namely Caughdenoy Road, Mud Mill Road, 17 VerPlank Road, and Van Hoesen Road. The impact on 18 traffic paragraph and the notice of intent to prepare
20 areas of concern.
20 areas of concern.
22 proposed Micron project is expected to generate a 23 substantial number of new vehicular trips on the 24 local and regional highway network, including local 25 roads I-81 and New York State Route 481. Two, ARII@courtsteno.com www.courtsteno.com 800.523.7887 10-11-2023, Public Meeting Associated Reporters Int'l., Inc. 1 10/11/23 - Micron Project SEQRA Scoping – Public Hearing 2 approximately 12,000 parking spaces are proposed.
22 proposed Micron project is expected to generate a 23 substantial number of new vehicular trips on the 24 local and regional highway network, including local 25 roads I-81 and New York State Route 481. Two, ARII@courtsteno.com www.courtsteno.com 800.523.7887 10-11-2023, Public Meeting Associated Reporters Int'l., Inc. 1 10/11/23 - Micron Project SEQRA Scoping – Public Hearing 2 approximately 12,000 parking spaces are proposed.
4 trucks per peak hour anticipated during the operation 5 of the proposed facility. Four, additional vehicles 6 are anticipated for construction over the 7 approximately twenty-year build out. And five, 8 modification of existing roads as anticipated.
4 trucks per peak hour anticipated during the operation 5 of the proposed facility. Four, additional vehicles 6 are anticipated for construction over the 7 approximately twenty-year build out. And five, 8 modification of existing roads as anticipated.
10 provide specific details for the proposed 11 improvements to the local roads named above. Details 12 regarding the size, number of lanes, speed limits, 13 expected volume of traffic, and expected changes for 14 the surrounding neighborhoods, along with the 15 specific timetable for the proposed improvements must 16 be provided in order to honestly assess the potential 17 impacts and give the surrounding residents adequate 18 notice of the changes that they will face. Anything 19 less will be deemed unacceptable and a failure to 20 address one of the most significant impacts 21 associated with the project.
10 provide specific details for the proposed 11 improvements to the local roads named above. Details 12 regarding the size, number of lanes, speed limits, 13 expected volume of traffic, and expected changes for 14 the surrounding neighborhoods, along with the 15 specific timetable for the proposed improvements must 16 be provided in order to honestly assess the potential 17 impacts and give the surrounding residents adequate 18 notice of the changes that they will face. Anything 19 less will be deemed unacceptable and a failure to 20 address one of the most significant impacts 21 associated with the project.
23 would like to see addressed is the proposed project's 24 impact on property taxes in the town of Clay. I 25 understand that determining the precise impact at ARII@courtsteno.com www.courtsteno.com 800.523.7887 10-11-2023, Public Meeting Associated Reporters Int'l., Inc. 1 10/11/23 - Micron Project SEQRA Scoping – Public Hearing 2 this stage of the project would be difficult.
23 would like to see addressed is the proposed project's 24 impact on property taxes in the town of Clay. I 25 understand that determining the precise impact at ARII@courtsteno.com www.courtsteno.com 800.523.7887 10-11-2023, Public Meeting Associated Reporters Int'l., Inc. 1 10/11/23 - Micron Project SEQRA Scoping – Public Hearing 2 this stage of the project would be difficult.
4 see a discussion of the anticipated impacts on 5 property taxes with a general conclusion that states 6 that the proposed project is likely to one, cause an 7 increase in property taxes. Two, cause a decrease in 8 property taxes. Or three, have no impact on property 9 taxes. Thank you for the opportunity to have input 10 in the preparation of the DEIS for this project. 11 MR. DAVIS: Thank you. Is this back 12 on? Okay. Jay Riordon would be next, and after that 13 will be Donald Hughes.
14 MR. RIORDAN: Hi, I'm Jay Riordon. I 15 live at 8763 Brewerton Road in the town of Cicero. 16 MR. DAVIS: And Jay, can you just 17 spell your name please?
18 MR. RIORDAN: It's R-I-O-R-D-A-N. I'm 19 here representing the Cicero Democratic Committee.
4 see a discussion of the anticipated impacts on 5 property taxes with a general conclusion that states 6 that the proposed project is likely to one, cause an 7 increase in property taxes. Two, cause a decrease in 8 property taxes. Or three, have no impact on property 9 taxes. Thank you for the opportunity to have input 10 in the preparation of the DEIS for this project. 11 MR. DAVIS: Thank you. Is this back 12 on? Okay. Jay Riordon would be next, and after that 13 will be Donald Hughes.
14 MR. RIORDAN: Hi, I'm Jay Riordon. I 15 live at 8763 Brewerton Road in the town of Cicero. 16 MR. DAVIS: And Jay, can you just 17 spell your name please?
18 MR. RIORDAN: It's R-I-O-R-D-A-N. I'm 19 here representing the Cicero Democratic Committee.
21 November.
22 MR. DAVIS: Yes.
23 MR. RIORDAN: But most of all, I'm 24 here as a Cicero resident who has already been 25 impacted by this project. So to kind of figure out ARII@courtsteno.com www.courtsteno.com 800.523.7887 10-11-2023, Public Meeting Associated Reporters Int'l., Inc. 1 10/11/23 - Micron Project SEQRA Scoping – Public Hearing 2 why, if you look up the address I just gave you, this 3 is the document that we're here to discuss tonight -- 4 MR. DAVIS: Can you hear him?
21 November.
22 MR. DAVIS: Yes.
23 MR. RIORDAN: But most of all, I'm 24 here as a Cicero resident who has already been 25 impacted by this project. So to kind of figure out ARII@courtsteno.com www.courtsteno.com 800.523.7887 10-11-2023, Public Meeting Associated Reporters Int'l., Inc. 1 10/11/23 - Micron Project SEQRA Scoping – Public Hearing 2 why, if you look up the address I just gave you, this 3 is the document that we're here to discuss tonight -- 4 MR. DAVIS: Can you hear him?
6 just speak up a little louder.
7 MR. DAVIS: Can you -- Jay, can you 8 speak up just a little bit more? We're not picking 9 you up.
10 MR. RIORDAN: Oh, okay. 11 COURT REPORTER: There you go. 12 MR. RIORDAN: Do you want to start 13 over or?
14 MR. DAVIS: Yes, please. 15 MR. RIORDAN: Okay.
16 MR. DAVIS: Well, yeah. Give it -- 17 give it a ring again so we can hear you a little bit 18 better.
19 MR. RIORDAN: Okay. Sounds good. 20 MR. DAVIS: Thank you. 21 MR. RIORDAN: All right. I'm Jay 22 Riordan. I live at 8763 Brewerton Road in the town 23 of Cicero. I do represent the Cicero Democratic 24 Committee. I'm also a candidate for town counselor 25 in November, but I'm also here as a Cicero Resident ARII@courtsteno.com www.courtsteno.com 800.523.7887 10-11-2023, Public Meeting Associated Reporters Int'l., Inc.
6 just speak up a little louder.
7 MR. DAVIS: Can you -- Jay, can you 8 speak up just a little bit more? We're not picking 9 you up.
10 MR. RIORDAN: Oh, okay. 11 COURT REPORTER: There you go. 12 MR. RIORDAN: Do you want to start 13 over or?
14 MR. DAVIS: Yes, please. 15 MR. RIORDAN: Okay.
16 MR. DAVIS: Well, yeah. Give it -- 17 give it a ring again so we can hear you a little bit 18 better.
19 MR. RIORDAN: Okay. Sounds good. 20 MR. DAVIS: Thank you. 21 MR. RIORDAN: All right. I'm Jay 22 Riordan. I live at 8763 Brewerton Road in the town 23 of Cicero. I do represent the Cicero Democratic 24 Committee. I'm also a candidate for town counselor 25 in November, but I'm also here as a Cicero Resident ARII@courtsteno.com www.courtsteno.com 800.523.7887 10-11-2023, Public Meeting Associated Reporters Int'l., Inc. 1 10/11/23 - Micron Project SEQRA Scoping – Public Hearing 2 who's already been impacted by this -- by this 3 project. If you look up the address I just gave you 4 of where I live, you can see why that -- this 5 document in question that we're all here to discuss 6 tonight looks great. And we think it's an excellent 7 piece of planning work.
1 10/11/23 - Micron Project SEQRA Scoping – Public Hearing 2 who's already been impacted by this -- by this 3 project. If you look up the address I just gave you 4 of where I live, you can see why that -- this 5 document in question that we're all here to discuss 6 tonight looks great. And we think it's an excellent 7 piece of planning work.
9 reaching this milestone. The new Micron campus map on
9 reaching this milestone. The new Micron campus map on
12 it shows the Micron campus itself extending into the 13 town of Cicero. This seems to be -- this seems to be 14 the first public OCIDA document that shows these 15 aspects regarding the town of Cicero.
12 it shows the Micron campus itself extending into the 13 town of Cicero. This seems to be -- this seems to be 14 the first public OCIDA document that shows these 15 aspects regarding the town of Cicero.
17 developments to residents of Cicero. These new 18 developments have heightened interest in this project 19 among town of Cicero residents like me, and also 20 within the organizations that I represent.
17 developments to residents of Cicero. These new 18 developments have heightened interest in this project 19 among town of Cicero residents like me, and also 20 within the organizations that I represent.
22 residents are surprised how fast the changes are 23 proceeding. There are particular concerns about 24 congestion and the possible new I-81 off ramp.
22 residents are surprised how fast the changes are 23 proceeding. There are particular concerns about 24 congestion and the possible new I-81 off ramp.
ARII@courtsteno.com www.courtsteno.com 800.523.7887 10-11-2023, Public Meeting Associated Reporters Int'l., Inc. 1 10/11/23 - Micron Project SEQRA Scoping – Public Hearing 2 population growth and new build development, and even 3 simpler things like, will our water and electricity 4 go out? And how do we -- as construction proceeds, 5 and how do we keep track of that?
ARII@courtsteno.com www.courtsteno.com 800.523.7887 10-11-2023, Public Meeting Associated Reporters Int'l., Inc. 1 10/11/23 - Micron Project SEQRA Scoping – Public Hearing 2 population growth and new build development, and even 3 simpler things like, will our water and electricity 4 go out? And how do we -- as construction proceeds, 5 and how do we keep track of that?
7 that Cicero residents can best get information on 8 this project, and especially its impact on Cicero.
7 that Cicero residents can best get information on 8 this project, and especially its impact on Cicero.
11 this project. There are so many municipalities and 12 government levels involved that it can be hard forces 13 for a resident to easily follow new developments.
11 this project. There are so many municipalities and 12 government levels involved that it can be hard forces 13 for a resident to easily follow new developments.
15 work with OCIDA to help find a simple, easy way to 16 keep Cicero residents informed and involved. If 17 there is something we can do to promote easier 18 communication and involvement amongst Cicero 19 residents, please let us know. We think easy, simple 20 access to info is best. Thank you. Again, 21 congratulations on a well thought out and timely 22 document and on hitting this important milestone so 23 quickly.
24 MR. RIORDAN: Thank you, Jay. Donald 25 Hughs, and then after that will be Damian Ulatowski. ARII@courtsteno.com www.courtsteno.com 800.523.7887 10-11-2023, Public Meeting Associated Reporters Int'l., Inc. 1 10/11/23 - Micron Project SEQRA Scoping – Public Hearing 2 MR. HUGHES: So my name's Don Hughes. 3 And that's H-U-G-H-E-S, last name. I'm here on 4 behalf of the Sierra Club. I'm the conservation 5 chair of the local group, the Central Northern New 6 York Group. We have close to three thousand members
15 work with OCIDA to help find a simple, easy way to 16 keep Cicero residents informed and involved. If 17 there is something we can do to promote easier 18 communication and involvement amongst Cicero 19 residents, please let us know. We think easy, simple 20 access to info is best. Thank you. Again, 21 congratulations on a well thought out and timely 22 document and on hitting this important milestone so 23 quickly.
24 MR. RIORDAN: Thank you, Jay. Donald 25 Hughs, and then after that will be Damian Ulatowski. ARII@courtsteno.com www.courtsteno.com 800.523.7887 10-11-2023, Public Meeting Associated Reporters Int'l., Inc. 1 10/11/23 - Micron Project SEQRA Scoping – Public Hearing 2 MR. HUGHES: So my name's Don Hughes. 3 And that's H-U-G-H-E-S, last name. I'm here on 4 behalf of the Sierra Club. I'm the conservation 5 chair of the local group, the Central Northern New 6 York Group. We have close to three thousand members 7 in our group, and the Sierra Club itself as a 8 national organization has over six hundred thousand 9 members across the country and affiliates in Canada, 10 Europe, and elsewhere.
7 in our group, and the Sierra Club itself as a 8 national organization has over six hundred thousand 9 members across the country and affiliates in Canada, 10 Europe, and elsewhere.
12 several hundred other groups, sent a letter to the 13 leaders of the semiconductor industry, including the 14 CEO of Micron. And I'm not going to read that letter 15 for brevity's sake, but I want to tell you the 16 motivation. Our concerns stem from the 17 semiconductors' well-documented history starting in
12 several hundred other groups, sent a letter to the 13 leaders of the semiconductor industry, including the 14 CEO of Micron. And I'm not going to read that letter 15 for brevity's sake, but I want to tell you the 16 motivation. Our concerns stem from the 17 semiconductors' well-documented history starting in
19 environment, harming workers and their offspring. As 20 well as community residents, bus communities, 21 avoiding taxes and burden of communities with 22 significant problems.
19 environment, harming workers and their offspring. As 20 well as community residents, bus communities, 21 avoiding taxes and burden of communities with 22 significant problems.
24 want to recommend or contrast this project with a 25 recent project which went through an extensive ARII@courtsteno.com www.courtsteno.com 800.523.7887 10-11-2023, Public Meeting Associated Reporters Int'l., Inc. 1 10/11/23 - Micron Project SEQRA Scoping – Public Hearing 2 environmental impact statement, mainly I-81. That 3 project as large it is, pales in comparison to the 4 Micron endeavor. It has a budget of about two-and-a- 5 half billion dollars, which is forty times smaller 6 than the anticipated outlay for Micron. Furthermore, 7 the environmental impacts of Micron will be far 8 larger than I-81 in Syracuse.
24 want to recommend or contrast this project with a 25 recent project which went through an extensive ARII@courtsteno.com www.courtsteno.com 800.523.7887 10-11-2023, Public Meeting Associated Reporters Int'l., Inc. 1 10/11/23 - Micron Project SEQRA Scoping – Public Hearing 2 environmental impact statement, mainly I-81. That 3 project as large it is, pales in comparison to the 4 Micron endeavor. It has a budget of about two-and-a- 5 half billion dollars, which is forty times smaller 6 than the anticipated outlay for Micron. Furthermore, 7 the environmental impacts of Micron will be far 8 larger than I-81 in Syracuse.
10 electricity as the states of Vermont and New
10 electricity as the states of Vermont and New
12 gallons of water per day, which is more than the 13 entire city of Syracuse. And Micron will be using 14 chemicals. What I want to recommend to you is that 15 the scope, the DEIS, be expanded to include more 16 alternatives than what you've got. You have simply 17 no action, which is required full build out, half 18 build out. In contrast, I-81 project had multiple 19 design alternatives. So in addition to no build, 20 there were five alternatives included in the Viaduct 21 Category two. And we can even create seven tunnel 22 alternatives and four other alternatives.
12 gallons of water per day, which is more than the 13 entire city of Syracuse. And Micron will be using 14 chemicals. What I want to recommend to you is that 15 the scope, the DEIS, be expanded to include more 16 alternatives than what you've got. You have simply 17 no action, which is required full build out, half 18 build out. In contrast, I-81 project had multiple 19 design alternatives. So in addition to no build, 20 there were five alternatives included in the Viaduct 21 Category two. And we can even create seven tunnel 22 alternatives and four other alternatives.
24 its range of alternatives. Micron is to be commended 25 for committing itself to a large degree of ARII@courtsteno.com www.courtsteno.com 800.523.7887 10-11-2023, Public Meeting Associated Reporters Int'l., Inc. 1 10/11/23 - Micron Project SEQRA Scoping – Public Hearing 2 sustainability, but what is actually achievable? 3 That's the -- that's where the rubber meets the road.
24 its range of alternatives. Micron is to be commended 25 for committing itself to a large degree of ARII@courtsteno.com www.courtsteno.com 800.523.7887 10-11-2023, Public Meeting Associated Reporters Int'l., Inc. 1 10/11/23 - Micron Project SEQRA Scoping – Public Hearing 2 sustainability, but what is actually achievable? 3 That's the -- that's where the rubber meets the road.
5 be considered, say, from 50 percent, 60 percent 6 renewable to a 100 percent renewable. The project is 7 planning to use a significant amount of water. How 8 much of this can be recycled, thereby reducing water 9 consumption? That should be examined as well. And 10 perhaps most importantly is the DEIS should look at a 11 range of alternatives to the chemicals. The 12 semiconductor industry uses perfluorinated 13 components, also known as forever chemicals. They're 14 highly toxic. We need to eliminate these things. 15 Let's not turn Lake Ontario. Thank you. 16 MR. DAVIS: Thank you. Damian
5 be considered, say, from 50 percent, 60 percent 6 renewable to a 100 percent renewable. The project is 7 planning to use a significant amount of water. How 8 much of this can be recycled, thereby reducing water 9 consumption? That should be examined as well. And 10 perhaps most importantly is the DEIS should look at a 11 range of alternatives to the chemicals. The 12 semiconductor industry uses perfluorinated 13 components, also known as forever chemicals. They're 14 highly toxic. We need to eliminate these things. 15 Let's not turn Lake Ontario. Thank you. 16 MR. DAVIS: Thank you. Damian
18 maybe.
19 MR. ULATOWSKI: Good evening. My name 20 is Damian Ulatowski. I'm here as both a citizen of 21 the Town of Clay; I'm also the supervisor for the 22 town of Clay. And primarily I'm here because I'm 23 responsible for the health, safety, and welfare of 24 our residents.
25 MR. DAVIS: Damian, can you speak up ARII@courtsteno.com www.courtsteno.com 800.523.7887 10-11-2023, Public Meeting Associated Reporters Int'l., Inc. 1 10/11/23 - Micron Project SEQRA Scoping – Public Hearing 2 just a little bit more?
3 MR. ULATOWSKI: Absolutely. 4 MR. DAVIS: Maybe move closer to the 5 mic, thanks.
6 MR. ULATOWSKI: Absolutely. You need 7 me to start over again or no?
8 MR. DAVIS: Speak -- you do need to 9 spell your name.
10 MR. ULATOWSKI: Okay. U-L-A-T-O-W-S- 11 K-I. First of all, I commend the visionaries who have
18 maybe.
19 MR. ULATOWSKI: Good evening. My name 20 is Damian Ulatowski. I'm here as both a citizen of 21 the Town of Clay; I'm also the supervisor for the 22 town of Clay. And primarily I'm here because I'm 23 responsible for the health, safety, and welfare of 24 our residents.
25 MR. DAVIS: Damian, can you speak up ARII@courtsteno.com www.courtsteno.com 800.523.7887 10-11-2023, Public Meeting Associated Reporters Int'l., Inc. 1 10/11/23 - Micron Project SEQRA Scoping – Public Hearing 2 just a little bit more?
3 MR. ULATOWSKI: Absolutely. 4 MR. DAVIS: Maybe move closer to the 5 mic, thanks.
6 MR. ULATOWSKI: Absolutely. You need 7 me to start over again or no?
8 MR. DAVIS: Speak -- you do need to 9 spell your name.
10 MR. ULATOWSKI: Okay. U-L-A-T-O-W-S- 11 K-I. First of all, I commend the visionaries who have 12 brought Micron to our communities. And I plan on 13 supporting it as much as we possibly can. We want to 14 make sure some environmental concerns are considered. 12 brought Micron to our communities. And I plan on 13 supporting it as much as we possibly can. We want to 14 make sure some environmental concerns are considered.
16 chimneys or stacks on the individual pots, almost 163 17 feet tall. We're wondering why they are that height 18 and also what are they emitting? You would also like 19 to see some kind of safeguards put out so that, every 20 once in a while, the waters that are being thrown 21 back into where the rivers in our communities are 22 tested every three to four years to make sure they're 23 safe and not contaminated in any way.
16 chimneys or stacks on the individual pots, almost 163 17 feet tall. We're wondering why they are that height 18 and also what are they emitting? You would also like 19 to see some kind of safeguards put out so that, every 20 once in a while, the waters that are being thrown 21 back into where the rivers in our communities are 22 tested every three to four years to make sure they're 23 safe and not contaminated in any way.
25 wastewater leaving the Micron facility. How are we ARII@courtsteno.com www.courtsteno.com 800.523.7887 10-11-2023, Public Meeting Associated Reporters Int'l., Inc. 1 10/11/23 - Micron Project SEQRA Scoping – Public Hearing 2 ensuring it's being conveyed to oak orchards safely?
25 wastewater leaving the Micron facility. How are we ARII@courtsteno.com www.courtsteno.com 800.523.7887 10-11-2023, Public Meeting Associated Reporters Int'l., Inc. 1 10/11/23 - Micron Project SEQRA Scoping – Public Hearing 2 ensuring it's being conveyed to oak orchards safely?
4 questions or comments from residences, how is traffic 5 going to be addressed as the scoping of the project 6 goes further and further and brings not only Micron 7 employees to our -- to our boundaries, but also those 8 support industries that are so vital to that 9 operation and will be instrumental in the growth of 10 our community. Thank you.
11 MR. DAVIS: Thank you. So we have 12 John, and then after that would be Mary Scanlon. 13 MR. PRZEPIORA: My name is John 14 Przepiora, P-R-Z-E-P-I-O-R-A. I'm a resident of the 15 city of Syracuse and Vice President and Director of a 16 not-for-profit organization founded in Syracuse, 17 Greeningusa. Our organization was founded on a need 18 to bring the Green revolution to Syracuse. We 19 believe economic progress is necessary to improve the 20 lives of people, but it must be done in a way to 21 protect the environment, protect the health of 22 people, and protect natural ecosystems. In addition, 23 the impacts, both positive and negative, must be 24 distributed in a just and equitable fashion. The
4 questions or comments from residences, how is traffic 5 going to be addressed as the scoping of the project 6 goes further and further and brings not only Micron 7 employees to our -- to our boundaries, but also those 8 support industries that are so vital to that 9 operation and will be instrumental in the growth of 10 our community. Thank you.
11 MR. DAVIS: Thank you. So we have 12 John, and then after that would be Mary Scanlon. 13 MR. PRZEPIORA: My name is John 14 Przepiora, P-R-Z-E-P-I-O-R-A. I'm a resident of the 15 city of Syracuse and Vice President and Director of a 16 not-for-profit organization founded in Syracuse, 17 Greeningusa. Our organization was founded on a need 18 to bring the Green revolution to Syracuse. We 19 believe economic progress is necessary to improve the 20 lives of people, but it must be done in a way to 21 protect the environment, protect the health of 22 people, and protect natural ecosystems. In addition, 23 the impacts, both positive and negative, must be 24 distributed in a just and equitable fashion. The
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