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Eminent Domain Procedure Law Article 2 Public Hearing for Proposed Micron New York Manufacturing LLC Project — EDPL Art. 2 Public Hearing Record (Proposed Micron Project)

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RECORD OF EDPL ARTICLE 2 PUBLIC HEARING
RECORD OF EDPL ARTICLE 2 PUBLIC HEARING
              ONONDAGA COUNTY INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT AGENCY
                                    November 20, 2025
                                      Clay Town Hall
                                     Clay, New York
             Proposed Micron New York Semiconductor Manufacturing LLC Project
Transcript of November 20, 2025 EDPL Article 2 Public Hearing
Exhibit 1 – November 19, 2025 letter with objections from Christopher M. McDonald, Esq.
Exhibit 2 – November 19, 2025 letter from Jean Marie Gildemeyer-Russo
Exhibit 3 –November 18, 2025 letter with objections from Scott A. Lickstein, Esq. with
Enclosure
     Agreement dated July 27, 2005
Exhibit 4 – Affidavit of Publication of EDPL 202(A) Notice in The Post-Standard
Exhibit 5 – Public Hearing Sign-in Sheet
Exhibit 6 – November 7, 2025 EDPL 202 (C) Notice letter to Azalia M. King and counsel, with
certified mail receipts
Exhibit 7 – November 7, 2025 EDPL 202 (C) Notice letter to SSO Holdings, LLC, with certified
mail receipt
Exhibit 8 – November 11, 2025 email from Alexander Pontiff
Exhibit 9 – November 11, 2025 email from Jessica Montena
Exhibit 10 – November 13, 2025 email from Daniel Cicalese
Exhibit 11 – November 13, 2025 letter from Sheila Angeli
Exhibit 12 – November 14, 2025 letter from Scott Landes
Exhibit 13 – November 15, 2025 letter from Mary Nortman
Exhibit 14 – November 16, 2025 letter from Mary Stine
Exhibit 15 – November 16, 2025 email from Bernice Finnegan Strother
Exhibit 16 – November 17, 2025 email from Rev. Tonya Eza
Exhibit 17 – November 17, 2025 letter from Kimberly Bremerman
Exhibit 18 – Undated letter from Rick and Renee Neiderman
Exhibit 19 – Undated letter from Thomas H. Boll
Exhibit 20 – November 17, 2025 letter from Rev. Richard Yost
Exhibit 21 – November 19, 2025 email with attachment from Connie Frizzell and Thomas
Frizzell, Jr.
Exhibit 22 – November 19, 2025 email from Mark and Lisa (Carlisle) Valletta
Exhibit 23 – November 19, 2025 email from Stephen Carlisle
Exhibit 24 – November 19, 2025 letter from Katie Turner
Exhibit 25 – November 20, 2025 email and attachment from Dawn Brocious
Exhibit 26 – November 20, 2025 letter from Jacob Miller
Exhibit 27 – November 21, 2025 email from Matt Spano
Exhibit 28 – Undated letter from Renee Cordell
Exhibit 29 – Undated letter from “An Onondaga County Resident”
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2 STATE OF NEW YORK p. 2
2                       STATE OF NEW YORK
4 INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT AGENCY p. 2
4               INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT AGENCY
5 Pursuant to Article 2 of the Eminent Domain p. 2
5       Pursuant to Article 2 of the Eminent Domain
6 Procedure Law, Regarding the Potential p. 2
6       Procedure Law, Regarding the Potential
7 Acquisition, Public Use, Benefit and Purpose of p. 2
7       Acquisition, Public Use, Benefit and Purpose of
8 OCIDA’s Acquisition by Eminent Doman of Certain p. 2
8       OCIDA’s Acquisition by Eminent Doman of Certain
9 Interests for the Proposed Micron New York p. 2
9       Interests for the Proposed Micron New York
10      Semiconductor Manufacturing, LLC Project.
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                      PUBLIC STATEMENT HEARING
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              DATE:        November 20, 2025 at 9:01 a.m.
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              LOCATION:    Town of Clay Town Hall
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                           4401 Route 31
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                           Clay, New York 13041
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              BEFORE:      Mark McNamara, OCIDA
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                           Daniel Coleman, OCIDA
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        Reported by Kristen Lawler
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   2                           (The hearing commenced at 9:01 a.m.)
   3                           MR. McNAMARA:          Before we begin, one
   4           issue is the mics are very sensitive.               So, if there's
   5           people speaking -- if we -- if other -- particularly
   6           if other people are speaking, it gets picked up on
   7           the mic and the Court Reporter can't take it down.
8 So, I'll ask everyone to please be quiet and p. 3
8           So, I'll ask everyone to please be quiet and
   9           respectful of other people when they're speaking.
10 I'll start the -- I'll go through the p. 3
10                            I'll start the -- I'll go through the
 11            introduction of the public hearing, and then we'll
 12            get to the individual comments.            My name is Mark
 13            McNamara, I'm with the Law Firm of Barclay Damon.                        We
 14            are counsel to the Onondaga County Industrial
15 Development Agency, and we are the moderator of this p. 3
15            Development Agency, and we are the moderator of this
 16            public hearing.    There are a variety of OCIDA --
 17            OCIDA is the Onondaga -- Onondaga County I.D.A.
18 There are a variety of OCIDA personnel who are here, p. 3
18            There are a variety of OCIDA personnel who are here,
 19            staff and personnel who are here as well.
20 This hearing is being held by the p. 3
20                            This hearing is being held by the
21 Onondaga County Industrial Development Agency, which p. 3
21            Onondaga County Industrial Development Agency, which
 22            I'll refer to as OCIDA or the agency.               Pursuant to
23 Article 2 of the New York Eminent Domain Procedure p. 3
23            Article 2 of the New York Eminent Domain Procedure
 24            Law, which is the E.D.P.L., and I'll call it that as
 25            we go forward, in connection with the potential
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   2           acquisition by negotiated purchase or eminent domain
   3           of, one, the permanent easement rights over two
   4           parcels of real property located in the Town of Clay,
5 Onondaga County, New York bearing tax map numbers p. 4
5           Onondaga County, New York bearing tax map numbers
   6           zero three one point dash zero one dash sixteen point
   7           one and zero three zero dash zero one dash zero one
   8           point zero.
9 And two, any and all interest that may p. 4
9                              And two, any and all interest that may
 10            be held in the parcel located within the town bearing
 11            tax map parcels zero four six point zero two dash
 12            zero one point zero that are not already owned by the
 13            agency.   Collectively, those are called the project
 14            property interest, and that's how I will refer to
 15            that.   The real property parcels identified as S.P.L.
 16            numbers, the three numbers I just -- I just
 17            identified, located in the town are referred to below
 18            as the property.
19 The purpose of the potential p. 4
19                               The purpose of the potential
 20            acquisition of the project property interest is for
 21            the unified and comprehensive re-development of the
22 White Pine Commerce Park and proposed Micron New York p. 4
22            White Pine Commerce Park and proposed Micron New York
 23            Semiconductor Manufacturing L.L.C. project, which I
 24            will refer to as that -- as project.                 When I talk
 25            about the project, that's what I'm talking about.
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   2           And I will describe in greater detail shortly.
3 For purposes of this presentation, I p. 5
3                           For purposes of this presentation, I
   4           will refer to the White Pine Commerce Park as the
5 Park and Micron New York Semiconductor Manufacturing p. 5
5           Park and Micron New York Semiconductor Manufacturing
   6           L.L.C. as Micron.     Micron is a wholly owned
   7           subsidiary of Micron Technology Inc., which is the
   8           fourth largest semiconductor company in the world and
   9           the only U.S. based manufacturer of digital memory.
10 The agency's sponsorship and p. 5
10                            The agency's sponsorship and
 11            participation in this public hearing are based on its
 12            role as the potential condemner and the requirement
 13            of holding a public hearing pursuant to the E.D.P.L.
14 Article 2 to describe the proposed acquisition of the p. 5
14            Article 2 to describe the proposed acquisition of the
 15            project property interests and to inform the public
 16            and to review the public use, benefit, and purpose to
 17            be served by the proposed Micron project and the
 18            impact of the project on the environment and
 19            residents of the locality in which the property will
 20            be -- or excuse me, the project will be constructed.
21 Notice of this hearing was properly p. 5
21                            Notice of this hearing was properly
 22            published as required by law in the Syracuse Post-
 23            Standard on November 9, 11, 13, 16, and 18, 2025.
24 Proof of that publication will be made a part of the p. 5
24            Proof of that publication will be made a part of the
 25            record of this hearing.
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2 In addition, copies of the notice of p. 6
2                           In addition, copies of the notice of
   3           today's public hearing were timely served on each of
   4           the assessment record billing owners or licensee of
   5           the project property interest and their respective
   6           legal counsel by certified mail return receipt
   7           requested pursuant to E.D.P.L. 202.               Copies of those
   8           letters and certified mailing receipts will also be
   9           made part of the record of this hearing.
10 Anyone attending the hearing who p. 6
10                            Anyone attending the hearing who
 11            wishes to speak should identify themselves, their
 12            address, the organization with which they're
 13            affiliated on the sign in sheet at the entrance to
 14            the -- the room.     The sign in sheet -- I now have the
 15            sign in sheet, and if you didn't get an opportunity
 16            to sign that, you can -- you -- I will -- at the end
 17            of when I go through all of the names with the people
 18            who did sign in, you may come up and speak as well,
 19            and we'll just get your name at that time.
20 Owners who may subsequently wish to p. 6
20                            Owners who may subsequently wish to
 21            challenge condemnation of any real property interests
 22            they have in the property and the pro -- the project
 23            property interests via judicial review may do so only
 24            on the basis of issues, facts, and objections that
 25            they -- that they raise at this public hearing.
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2 Again, I will call the speakers in the p. 7
2                           Again, I will call the speakers in the
   3           order in which they signed in.            Each speaker is
   4           limited to approximately three minutes, there are a
   5           lot of people here, with latitude -- extra latitude
   6           being given to any representative to the -- to the
   7           legal representatives and the -- of the Russo with
   8           the S.S.O. property and to Mrs. King in the event her
   9           counsel wish to speak.
10 There are a number of letters, emails p. 7
10                            There are a number of letters, emails
 11            including from counsel for Mrs. King, which have
 12            already been received by the agency and which will be
 13            made part of the -- this public record.                The
14 Stenographer is here to take down everything that's p. 7
14            Stenographer is here to take down everything that's
 15            said and to preserve your comments.               Again, you'll be
 16            speaking right here at the mic.            Your comments will
 17            be part of the public hearing.
18 If anyone has any written materials, p. 7
18                            If anyone has any written materials,
 19            and I've already received some, if anyone has any
 20            written materials which they would like to submit,
 21            instead of speaking or in addition to speaking,
 22            please give those to us before you leave.                  And again,
 23            those will be made exhibits and part of the public
 24            record.
25 Prior to this hearing, as I said, we p. 7
25                            Prior to this hearing, as I said, we
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   2           already received several emails and letters,
   3           including not limited to a November 18 letter from
   4           the Newman and Lickstein Law Firm on behalf of Azalia
   5           King.   Again, all of those materials will be part of
   6           the record.
7 And the -- this hearing will be left p. 8
7                              And the -- this hearing will be left
   8           open to receive any additional materials or written
   9           submissions people may wish the agency to consider as
 10            part of the hearing, but those materials or written
 11            submissions should be forwarded, mailed, or delivered
 12            so that they are received, not mailed by, received by
 13            the close of business on or before November 26, 2025,
 14            and they should be sent or delivered to Robert
15 Petrovich, Executive Director, Onondaga County p. 8
15            Petrovich, Executive Director, Onondaga County
16 Industrial Development Agency, 335 Montgomery Street, p. 8
16            Industrial Development Agency, 335 Montgomery Street,
 17            Floor 2M, Syracuse, New York 13202.
18 Now the -- with respect to the p. 8
18                               Now the -- with respect to the
 19            project, a more -- a greater, more detailed
 20            description is as follows.             Micron plans to invest
 21            approximately one hundred billion dollars over the
 22            next sixteen years to construct and operate a large
 23            scale, state of the art, Dynamic Random Access
24 Memory, which is DRAM, the shorthand version, p. 8
24            Memory, which is DRAM, the shorthand version,
 25            Semiconductor Manufacturing Facility at the Park.
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2 That's the Mic -- which was referred to as the Micron p. 9
2           That's the Mic -- which was referred to as the Micron
   3           Campus, what I've just described.
4 In addition to the Micron Campus, p. 9
4                            In addition to the Micron Campus,
5 Micron also plans to construct a Rail Spur and p. 9
5           Micron also plans to construct a Rail Spur and
   6           construction material conveyance facility to reduce
   7           truck trips and support construction of the Micron
   8           Campus.   That I'll refer to as the Rail Spur site.
9 A childcare center, healthcare center, p. 9
9                            A childcare center, healthcare center,
 10            and recreational center to serve its employees,
 11            that's the childcare site, and to lease existing
 12            warehouse space within twenty miles of the Micron
13 Campus, which would be the warehouse site -- site, p. 9
13            Campus, which would be the warehouse site -- site,
 14            collectively with the Micron Campus, all of that is
 15            the project.
16 The application requests the agency p. 9
16                             The application requests the agency
 17            acquire the project property interest by eminent
 18            domain or negotiated purchase to effect -- to
 19            effectuate the project.         The one thousand three
 20            hundred seventy-seven acre -- approximately one
 21            thousand three hundred seventy-seven acre, Micron
22 Campus will include the Park, a twenty-eight -- an p. 9
22            Campus will include the Park, a twenty-eight -- an
 23            approximately twenty-eight acre portion of the Park,
 24            so located in the Town of Cicero, Onondaga County,
25 New York bearing tax map number zero nine one point p. 9
25            New York bearing tax map number zero nine one point
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   2           dash zero one dash zero two point one, the nine --
   3           approximately nine acre Burnett Road right of way,
   4           and an approximately one acre portion of the property
   5           -- or excuse me, of the parcel located in the town
   6           bearing tax map number zero four eight point dash
   7           zero one dash zero two point one.
8 The Rail Spur site will consist of p. 10
8                            The Rail Spur site will consist of
   9           approximately thirty-eight acres located west of 8625
10 Caughdenoy Road, tax parcel number zero four six p. 10
10            Caughdenoy Road, tax parcel number zero four six
 11            point dash zero two dash zero three point two.                     The
 12            childcare site will consist of approximately thirty-
 13            one acres located at 9100 Caughdenoy Road, tax map
 14            parcel zero four two point -- dash zero one dash
 15            thirteen point zero, and the warehouse site will be
 16            located at a yet to be determined industrial zoned --
 17            industrially zoned area within twenty miles of the
 18            Micron Campus.
19 The Micron Campus will be served by a p. 10
19                             The Micron Campus will be served by a
 20            new industrial wastewater treatment plant, the
 21            I.W.W.T.P., and other wastewater and reclaimed water
 22            utilities located at the existing approximately
 23            seventy-six acre Oak Orchard site owned by the County
 24            in the Town located at 4300 Oak Orchard Road, it's
 25            the Oak Orchard site, a new industrial wastewater and
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   2           reclaimed water conveyance between the Micron Campus
   3           and the Oak Orchard site.
4 The parcel bearing tax map number zero p. 11
4                            The parcel bearing tax map number zero
   5           four six point dash zero two dash zero one point zero
   6           is located within the Park and the parcels bearing
   7           tax map parcel zero thirty-one dash zero one dash
   8           sixteen point one and zero three zero dash zero one
   9           dash zero one point zero are located between the Oak
 10            Orchard site and the proposed Micron Campus.
11 These three parcels together with the p. 11
11                             These three parcels together with the
 12            remaining Micron Campus, the Oak Orchard site, the
13 Rail Spur site, the childcare site, and the warehouse p. 11
13            Rail Spur site, the childcare site, and the warehouse
 14            site are collectively referred to as the project
 15            site.   The agency is considering an application from
16 Micron in connection with the development and p. 11
16            Micron in connection with the development and
 17            operation of the Micron Campus component of the
 18            project.
19 As I stated, approximately one p. 11
19                             As I stated, approximately one
 20            thousand three hundred thirty-nine acres of the one
 21            thousand three hundred seventy-seven acre proposed
 22            Micron Campus will be located in the Park.                    The
 23            agency now owns the entirety of the Park, including
 24            the parcel bearing tax map number zero four six dash
 25            zero two dash zero one point zero, which is the
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   2           subject of a license -- to -- or subject to a
   3           license.
4 The agency intends to acquire by p. 12
4                           The agency intends to acquire by
   5           eminent domain or negotiated purchase any and all
   6           interest that may be held in that parcel not already
   7           owned by the agency in order to further the re-
   8           development of the Park and proposed Micron project.
9 In connection with that component of the project, the p. 12
9           In connection with that component of the project, the
 10            agency has offered the owner of that license interest
 11            compensation well in excess of its appraised value.
12 The County currently owns and operates p. 12
12                            The County currently owns and operates
 13            an industrial wastewater treatment plant on its oak -
 14            - on its Oak Orchard site.          Both the construction and
 15            operation of the proposed Micron Campus will require
 16            increased utility infrastructure.             In connection with
 17            this need, as I stated earlier, the County intends to
 18            construct a new industrial wastewater treatment plant
 19            at its Oak Orchard site.
20 The Micron Campus will also require a p. 12
20                            The Micron Campus will also require a
 21            new reclaimed water conveyance between its location
 22            at the Park and the Oak Orchard site.               Acquisition of
 23            the project property interest in the parcels bearing
 24            tax map numbers zero three one dash zero one dash
 25            sixteen point one and zero three zero dash zero one
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   2           dash zero one point zero is necessary because those
   3           parcels are located between the proposed location of
   4           the Micron Campus and the oak -- and the Oak Orchard
   5           site.   And the new industrial wastewater and
   6           reclaimed water conveyance to service the Micron
7 Campus will be constructed and operated on those p. 13
7           Campus will be constructed and operated on those
   8           parcels.
9 The anticipated public use benefit and p. 13
9                            The anticipated public use benefit and
 10            purpose of the project includes but is not limited
 11            to, one, construction of new infrastructure in an --
 12            in an industry of local, state, and national
 13            importance with such infrastructure constituting the
 14            largest domestic producer of DRAM chips that have
 15            crucial applications in military equipment,
 16            cybersecurity technology, the aerospace industry, and
 17            artificial intelligence.
18 Two, investment in workforce p. 13
18                             Two, investment in workforce
 19            development generating four thousand -- approximately
 20            four thousand on-site construction jobs,
 21            approximately nine thousand permanent on-site
 22            operations jobs, and spurring the creation of
 23            approximately forty thousand vendor supply chain,
 24            construction, community, and other jobs in the
 25            regional economy and throughout the state.
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2 And three, other substantial economic p. 14
2                           And three, other substantial economic
   3           improvements within the region including ten billion
   4           dollars approximately in real G.D.P. impacts,
   5           additional tax revenues and investments of five
   6           hundred million dollars approximately in local and
   7           regional initiatives that advance identified
   8           community needs, all of which will advance the job
   9           opportunities, health, general prosperity, and
 10            economic welfare of the people of the County and the
 11            State.
12 And now we will hear from anyone who p. 14
12                            And now we will hear from anyone who
 13            wishes to speak as I described before.                First one is
 14            John Russo from S.S.O. Holdings.
15 COURT REPORTER: If we can get them -- p. 14
15                            COURT REPORTER:           If we can get them --
 16                            MR. McNAMARA:          Excuse me.
17 COURT REPORTER: If we -- if everybody p. 14
17                            COURT REPORTER:           If we -- if everybody
 18            who comes up to speak could just for the record state
 19            and spell their name, I'd appreciate that.                   Thank
 20            you.
 21                            MR. RUSSO:        My name -- my name is John
 22            Russo, that's J-O-H-N R-U-S-S-O.             And I'm here on
 23            behalf of S.S.L. Holdings, a family member of the
 24            properties OCIDA is considering for easement takings.
25 Please include the this verbal submission in addition p. 14
25            Please include the this verbal submission in addition
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   2           --
   3                              UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKERS:              Talk in to the
   4           mic.
5 UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Turn it on, turn p. 15
5                              UNIDENTIFIED MALE:            Turn it on, turn
   6           it up.
7 UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It’s not a secret, p. 15
7                              UNIDENTIFIED MALE:            It’s not a secret,
   8           you don’t have to keep this a secret.
   9                              MR. RUSSO:        Sorry about that, guys.
10 CROWD: No, it's not your fault, p. 15
10                               CROWD:      No, it's not your fault,
 11            buddy.   Go ahead.
 12                               MR. McNAMARA:          Go ahead, Mr. Russo.
 13                               MR. RUSSO:        Do you want me to spell my
 14            name again?     I’ll start over.           My name is John Russo,
 15            and I'm here on behalf of S.S.O. Holdings, a family
 16            member of the properties OCIDA is considering for
 17            easement takings.        Please include this verbal
 18            submission in addition to the written and emailed
 19            submission in the official E.D.P.L. hearing record.
 20                               Dear Mr. Petrovich and members of the
21 Onondaga County Industrial Development Agency, we are p. 15
21            Onondaga County Industrial Development Agency, we are
 22            respectfully asking OCIDA to not move forward with
 23            the eminent domain because the agency has not met the
 24            legal requirements under New York's Eminent Domain
25 Procedure Law and State Environmental Quality Review p. 15
25            Procedure Law and State Environmental Quality Review
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   2           Act, or SECQRA.
3 Before any property can be taken by p. 16
3                           Before any property can be taken by
   4           eminent domain, the law requires a full and fair
   5           review of the potential environmental impacts.                     This
   6           did not happen in this case.
7 The wastewater and reclaimed water p. 16
7                           The wastewater and reclaimed water
   8           pipeline proposed across our property was listed as a
   9           connected action to the Micron project.                Yet, the
 10            environmental analysis of that pipeline is
 11            incomplete, segmented, and lacking detail.                   OCIDA's
 12            own documents state that easements quote would not
 13            change the current use end quote of our land.                     But
 14            that statement overlooks the reality that a broad
 15            easement like this reduces future development
 16            potential, restricts how the land can be used, and
 17            creates a meaningful long-term impacts.
18 Critically, the environmental review p. 16
18                            Critically, the environmental review
 19            also failed to consider the two natural spring-fed
 20            ponds and associated wetlands on S.S.O.'s property
 21            adjacent to the Oak Orchard Wastewater Treatment
22 Plant and the risk posed to those sensitive areas if p. 16
22            Plant and the risk posed to those sensitive areas if
 23            there were any leakage or spills from the proposed
 24            wastewater conveyance pipe.          In addition, the
 25            analysis does not address what would happen in the
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   2           event of a catastrophic failure of this industrial
   3           wastewater line, an essential issue for public
   4           safety, environmental protection, and property
   5           stewardship.
6 Because OCIDA has not taken the quote p. 17
6                            Because OCIDA has not taken the quote
   7           hard look at these issues, its environmental findings
   8           are incomplete and the law does not permit the agency
   9           to proceed with eminent domain under these
 10            circumstances.     We are simply asking OCIDA to follow
 11            the process that New York Law requires, one that
 12            protects the environment, the community, and property
 13            rights.
14 For these reasons, we respectfully p. 17
14                             For these reasons, we respectfully
 15            request that OCIDA decline to exercise eminent domain
 16            on the S.S.O. properties at this time.                 Thank you.
 17                             MR. McNAMARA:          Mr. Russo, this is not
 18            normally going to be a question and answer.                    I do
 19            have one question.       You referenced the --
 20                             MR. RUSSO:        Yes.
 21                             MR. McNAMARA:          -- email.       I have the
 22            letter.   I'm not sure I have the email.
 23                             MR. RUSSO:        My --
24 COURT REPORTER: It was sent by the p. 17
24                             COURT REPORTER:           It was sent by the
 25            lawyer.
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   2                            MR. RUSSO:        Yes, it was sent by the
   3           lawyer to the other attorney's office, I think.                       Yes.
   4                            UNIDENTIFIED MALE:            Mr. Petrovich.
   5                            MR. McNAMARA:          To Mr. Petrovich?
   6                            MR. RUSSO:        Yes.
   7                            MR. McNAMARA:          Okay.      Thank you.
8 UNIDENTIFIED MALE: They sent one to p. 18
8                            UNIDENTIFIED MALE:            They sent one to
   9           you too.
 10                             MR. McNAMARA:          To me?     All right.
 11            Yeah, I just haven't seen it.            All right.         Thank you.
 12                             MR. RUSSO:        Yeah, thank you so much.
 13                             MR. McNAMARA:          Next, I think that's

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