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Zoning Board Approves Pottery Class Permit on Caughdenoy Road, With One Condition: No Parking on the Road

2025-03-10 · 899 words
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Key Actions & Decisions

  • Chairperson Vivian Mason called the meeting to order at 6:00 p.m.; Karen Liebi, Ryan Frantzis and David Porter were present, Alternate Member David Hess was absent.
  • Adopted the 2025 Scheduling Calendar, confirmed Karen Liebi as Deputy Chairperson, and acknowledged Chelsea Clark's Town Board appointment as Secretary and Robert Germain's (Germain & Germain) appointment as Attorney. Unanimously carried.
  • Accepted the December 14, 2024 minutes as submitted; noted the January 13 and February 10, 2025 meetings were cancelled for lack of business. Unanimously carried.
  • Adopted a blanket SEQR Type II negative declaration for all new actions taken at the meeting, unless the attorney advised otherwise. Unanimously carried.
  • Case #1966 — Timothy R. See, 8380 Caughdenoy Road: heard a request for a Special Permit under Section 230-13 A.(2)(d)[1] and Section 230-27 I.(2)(a) to hold pottery classes in a pole barn on his RA-100 Residential Agricultural District property.
  • Board members questioned the applicant on class size (about one student per week), septic and permit status, and the absence of a kiln; Mr. See described the classes as "build and destroy" based, with students not taking pottery home.
  • Chris Close, 5160 Lyle Drive, raised concern in public comment about students parking on Caughdenoy Road near a sharp, cattail-lined curve where he said many accidents occur.
  • Attorney Robert Germain noted Caughdenoy Road is county-owned and parking on it is prohibited; he also found the action Unlisted with a filed short-form EAF, no other permitting authorities involved, and no significant environmental effect requiring a DEIS.
  • Approved the Special Permit for Case #1966 with the condition of no parking on Caughdenoy Road. Roll call: Frantzis, Porter, Liebi and Mason all in favor. Unanimously carried.
  • Adjourned at 6:13 p.m.

The Town of Clay Zoning Board of Appeals unanimously granted a Special Permit on March 10 letting a Caughdenoy Road homeowner teach pottery classes in his pole barn, adding a condition that no students park on the road after a neighbor raised safety concerns about a blind curve there.

People
Robert Germain (Town Clerk) Vivian Mason (Zoning Board of Appeals Chairperson) Karen Liebi (ZBA Deputy Chairperson) Chelsea Clark (Zoning Board Secretary) Ryan Frantzis (ZBA Member) David Porter (ZBA Member)

Typeset from the official record — motions and recorded votes are detected automatically. The official copy governs.

Contents · 4 sections
  1. ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS
  2. MINUTES OF MEETING
  3. OLD BUSINESS:
  4. NEW BUSINESS:

APPROVED

ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS

MINUTES OF MEETING

March 10, 2025

The Regular and Organizational Meetings of the Zoning Board of Appeals of the Town of Clay, County of Onondaga, State of New York, was held at the Clay Town Hall, 4401 New York State Route 31, Clay, New York on March 10, 2025. Chairperson Mason called the meeting to order at 6:00 P.M. and upon the roll being called the following were:

PRESENT:

Vivian Mason

Chairperson

Karen Liebi

Deputy Chairperson

Ryan Frantzis

Member

David Porter

Member

ABSENT:

David Hess

Alternate Member

OTHERS

PRESENT:

Robert Germain

Attorney

Chelsea Clark

Secretary

All present participated in the Pledge of Allegiance.

MOTION made by Chairperson Mason accepting the 2025 Scheduling Calendar, which states the

filing dates of when a completed application is to be received from an applicant; the designation that the second Monday of each month will be the regular meeting of the ZBA; appointment of Karen Liebi as Deputy Chairperson; the acknowledgement that Chelsea Clark was appointed by the Town Board as the Zoning Board of Appeals Secretary; the acknowledgement that Robert Germain (Germain & Germain) was appointed by the Town Board as the Zoning Board of Appeals Attorney; and that Proofs of Publication will be in the Tuesday edition of the Post Standard the week before the meeting. Motion was seconded by Mr. Frantzis. Unanimously carried.

MOTION made by Chairperson Mason that the Minutes of the meeting of December 14, 2024,

be accepted as submitted. The January 13, 2025, and February 10, 2025, meetings were cancelled due to no business. Motion was seconded by Mr. Frantzis. Unanimously carried.

MOTION made by Chairperson Mason for the purpose of the New York State Environmental

Quality Review (SEQR) all new actions tonight will be determined to be a Type II, and will be given a negative declaration, unless otherwise advised by our attorney. Motion was seconded by Deputy Chairperson Liebi. Unanimously carried.

OLD BUSINESS:

None.

NEW BUSINESS:

Case: #1966 – Timothy R. See, 8380 Caughdenoy Road, Tax Map #064.-01-03.2.:

The applicant is seeking a Special Permit pursuant to Section 230-13 A.(2)(d)[1] – Home Occupation, and Section 230-27 I.(2)(a) – Home Occupation Standards, to allow for pottery classes in pole barn. The property location is in RA-100 Residential Agricultural District.

ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS – March 10, 2025 Town of Clay

The applicant was present.

Chairperson Mason asked the applicant to explain his request for a Special Permit.

Mr. See explained he is a potter and travels to different pottery workshops and would like to offer classes at his residence, in his pole barn.

Chairperson Mason asked if there were any further comments or questions from the Board.

Mr. Frantzis stated the applicants request is exciting and asked if the pole barn and pottery wheels were finished.

The applicant stated that the septic has been approved, bathroom designed and is working on getting necessary permits. Mr. See added that the septic and parking have been dealt with.

Mr. Frantzis asked how many students the applicant would have at one time.

Mr. See stated he would average around one student per week.

Mr. Frantzis asked if the applicants’ classes were geared toward instruction on pottery.

The applicant explained he would be hosting workshops to learn the art of pottery.

Deputy Chairperson Liebi asked if there were existing bathrooms in the pole barn.

Mr. See stated not yet, however, there will be one in the pole barn once permits are approved.

Mrs. Liebi asked the applicant if there would be a kiln and if the students would be taking home their pottery from class.

Mr. See stated no, his classes are build and destroy based to encourage the students to step out of the box and challenge themselves to try something new.

Chairperson Mason asked if anyone in the audience had any questions or comments.

Chris Close, 5160 Lyle Drive, had concerns that students would be parking on Caughdenoy Road. There is a sharp curve with cattails and many accidents happen in this area.

The applicant confirmed no students would be parking on Caughdenoy road and there is ample parking on his property for the expected one student at a time.

Mr. Germain noted that Caughdenoy Road is a County owned road and parking on County roads is prohibited.

Mr. Germain added this is an Unlisted Action with a filed EAF (short form) for the purpose of SEQRA compliance. The proposed action does not involve any other permitting authorities outside the Town. The proposed action will not have a significant negative effect on the environment, and therefore does not require the preparation of a DEIS.

ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS – March 10, 2025 Town of Clay

Chairperson Mason asked for those in favor of granting the Special Permit and those opposed to granting the Special Permit and there were none.

The hearing was closed.

MOTION was made by Mr. Frantzis in Case #1966 to approve the Special Permit as requested

with the condition that there shall be no parking on Caughdenoy Road. Motion was seconded by Deputy Chairperson Liebi.

Roll Call:

Mr. Frantzis

- in favor Mr. Porter

- in favor Deputy Chairperson Liebi

- in favor Chairperson Mason

- in favor Unanimously Carried.

There being no further business, Chairperson Mason adjourned the meeting at 6:13 P.M.

Chelsea Clark, Secretary

Zoning Board of Appeals Town of Clay